Discussion:
Nice New List... Still can't Post via Email.
Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
2017-12-18 07:01:18 UTC
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Hi All,

I'm getting list posts via email, but I STILL can't post from email.
I've tried to re-subscribe via the links John provided, but that didn't
help either.

I've emailed John, but not had a reply. Hopefully he'll see this this
and come to my aid. I'm guessing that debian.org just doesn't like me :(

Cheers,

Matt (Jaruzel)
James Mills
2017-12-18 07:19:32 UTC
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HI Matt,

It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall :D

cheers
James


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Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
Hi All,
I'm getting list posts via email, but I STILL can't post from email.
I've tried to re-subscribe via the links John provided, but that didn't
help either.
I've emailed John, but not had a reply. Hopefully he'll see this this
and come to my aid. I'm guessing that debian.org just doesn't like me :(
Cheers,
Matt (Jaruzel)
Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
2017-12-18 07:22:37 UTC
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HI Matt,
It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall :D
cheers
James
I wish! I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had when
the list was on it's old home. :( I get emails of posts, but I can't post
via email...
David Woodfall
2017-12-18 07:32:36 UTC
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Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
In article
--f403045e9d1c64cb200560982e04
HI Matt,
It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall :D
cheers
James
I wish! I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had when
the list was on it's old home. :( I get emails of posts, but I can't post
via email...
Do you get any error when you try to post via email?
What email client are you using?

Also, a bit offtopic, but what is the nntp address?
Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
2017-12-18 07:36:51 UTC
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Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
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lic.gmane.org>,
--f403045e9d1c64cb200560982e04
HI Matt,
It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall :D
cheers
James
I wish! I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had when
the list was on it's old home. :( I get emails of posts, but I can't post
via email...
Do you get any error when you try to post via email?
What email client are you using?
Also, a bit offtopic, but what is the nntp address?
No error, the email just off into the ether, never to be seen again, and I
don't get a post confirmation. I'm using Outlook 2013 into MS Exchange, my
sending email domain is Jaruzel.com, and I send via smarthost at my ISP.

The NNTP server is 'news.gmane.org' and the group name is
'gmane.network.gopher.general'.

-Matt
David Woodfall
2017-12-18 08:04:16 UTC
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Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
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lic.gmane.org>,
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HI Matt,
It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall
:D
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
cheers
James
I wish! I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had when
the list was on it's old home. :( I get emails of posts, but I can't
post
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
via email...
Do you get any error when you try to post via email?
What email client are you using?
Also, a bit offtopic, but what is the nntp address?
No error, the email just off into the ether, never to be seen again, and I
don't get a post confirmation. I'm using Outlook 2013 into MS Exchange, my
sending email domain is Jaruzel.com, and I send via smarthost at my ISP.
The NNTP server is 'news.gmane.org' and the group name is
'gmane.network.gopher.general'.
-Matt
All I can think of is that the domain may be flagged in a spam
blacklist or something. I guess the list admin will have the answer to
that.
barana .
2017-12-18 08:46:24 UTC
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If any add will be blacklisted, it'll be an MS one. Used to get it a lot 15 yrs ago with. Hotmail.com
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Original Message
From: David Woodfall
Sent: Monday, 18 December 2017 18:04
To: gopher-***@other.debian.org
Subject: Re: Nice New List... Still can't Post via Email.
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
In article
<CALGqR9+_fnAMay1icHPgZh3+LcB3+1mM6EojgOWJ24DEZn21KQ-JsoAwUIsXosN
lic.gmane.org>,
--f403045e9d1c64cb200560982e04
HI Matt,
It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall
:D
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
cheers
James
I wish! I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had when
the list was on it's old home. :( I get emails of posts, but I can't
post
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
via email...
Do you get any error when you try to post via email?
What email client are you using?
Also, a bit offtopic, but what is the nntp address?
No error, the email just off into the ether, never to be seen again, and I
don't get a post confirmation. I'm using Outlook 2013 into MS Exchange, my
sending email domain is Jaruzel.com, and I send via smarthost at my ISP.
The NNTP server is 'news.gmane.org' and the group name is
'gmane.network.gopher.general'.
-Matt
All I can think of is that the domain may be flagged in a spam
blacklist or something. I guess the list admin will have the answer to
that.
Bradley D. Thornton
2018-04-26 09:05:41 UTC
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Hm....

Let's see if I can. I haven't made a post since the move.

We'll know soon enough, right?
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
In article
<CALGqR9+_fnAMay1icHPgZh3+LcB3+1mM6EojgOWJ24DEZn21KQ-JsoAwUIsXosN
lic.gmane.org>,
--f403045e9d1c64cb200560982e04
HI Matt,
It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall
:D
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
cheers
James
I wish!  I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had
when
the list was on it's old home. :(  I get emails of posts, but I can't
post
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
via email...
Do you get any error when you try to post via email?
What email client are you using?
Also, a bit offtopic, but what is the nntp address?
No error, the email just off into the ether, never to be seen again, and I
don't get a post confirmation. I'm using Outlook 2013 into MS
Exchange, my
sending email domain is Jaruzel.com, and I send via smarthost at my ISP.
The NNTP server is 'news.gmane.org' and the group name is
'gmane.network.gopher.general'.
-Matt
All I can think of is that the domain may be flagged in a spam
blacklist or something. I guess the list admin will have the answer to
that.
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Matt Owen
2018-04-26 10:01:20 UTC
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We Do! I would say your post is successful. 😊

My problem was...

When you post to the list, the Debian mailing-list server does a connect-back to the authoritative mail server for your domain name, in my case that's 'jaruzel.com' for @jaruzel.com. It then tries to validate the sender's address by doing this over SMTP:

EHLO
MAIL FROM: <>
RCPT TO: <***@jaruzel.com>

My mail server is a home-grown system (for various long winded reasons), but when I built it, I must have missed the bit in the RFC where '<>' is a valid 'MAIL FROM:' address. My mail server barfed, and Debian mailing-list server decided I was a fake address and killed my post. I patched my mail server code to accept '<>' and now it all works wonderfully! A unique case, but very very annoying.

-Matt/Jaruzel

-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley D. Thornton <***@NorthTech.US>
Sent: 26 April 2018 10:06
To: gopher-***@other.debian.org
Subject: Re: Nice New List... Still can't Post via Email.

Hm....

Let's see if I can. I haven't made a post since the move.

We'll know soon enough, right?
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
In article
<CALGqR9+_fnAMay1icHPgZh3+LcB3+1mM6EojgOWJ24DEZn21KQ-JsoAwUIsXosN
lic.gmane.org>,
--f403045e9d1c64cb200560982e04
HI Matt,
It looks like you were able to successfully post to this list afterall
:D
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
cheers
James
I wish!  I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had
when the list was on it's old home. :(  I get emails of posts, but
I can't
post
Post by David Woodfall
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
via email...
Do you get any error when you try to post via email?
What email client are you using?
Also, a bit offtopic, but what is the nntp address?
No error, the email just off into the ether, never to be seen again,
and I don't get a post confirmation. I'm using Outlook 2013 into MS
Exchange, my sending email domain is Jaruzel.com, and I send via
smarthost at my ISP.
The NNTP server is 'news.gmane.org' and the group name is
'gmane.network.gopher.general'.
-Matt
All I can think of is that the domain may be flagged in a spam
blacklist or something. I guess the list admin will have the answer to
that.
--
Bradley D. Thornton
Manager Network Services
http://NorthTech.US
TEL: +1.310.421.8268


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Hanno 'Rince' Wagner
2017-12-18 07:30:07 UTC
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Hi Matt!
Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
I wish! I'm doing this via NNTP. It's exactly the same issue I had when
the list was on it's old home. :( I get emails of posts, but I can't post
via email...
please send me (personally at best) the message-id and the date when
you tried to send, and I can track down what Debians Mailserver said.

best regards, Hanno Wagner
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John Goerzen
2017-12-18 18:11:10 UTC
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Post by Matt Owen (Jaruzel)
Hi All,
I'm getting list posts via email, but I STILL can't post from email.
I've tried to re-subscribe via the links John provided, but that didn't
help either.
I've emailed John, but not had a reply. Hopefully he'll see this this
and come to my aid. I'm guessing that debian.org just doesn't like me :(
Hi Matt and others,

First off, sorry I didn't reply to you earlier.

Anyhow, I don't have admin access to the mail servers that run the list,
so the Debian listmasters will have to help. I see Hanno Wagner also
replied to this thread, so I'd suggest you contact him directly.

It would also be interesting to know if your requests to the -request
address are processed, and if subsequent messages are processed.
Further, if you have access to outgoing SMTP logs at your end, that
would be particularly helpful. It is possible that your MDA is failing
to properly act on the greylisting.

- John
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